In the ongoing effort to resist the resistance, KMO talks with Doug, a long-time friend of the C-Realm and someone who works in tech and is gay. Doug spends most of his time in Bellows Falls, VT but travels back to NYC multiple times a year. Moving between these two worlds gives him an interesting perspective. Doug was a passionate supporter of Bernie Sanders in the 2016 presidential election, and his lack of enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton has cost him a few friendships. KMO talks a bit about how Amazon.com is using the marketing of their show, The Man in the High Castle, to present themselves as the defenders of America against literal Nazis. And what is the new animated Star Wars TV show called? Resistance. Groan.
KMO welcomes Bill McKibben back to the C-Realm to discuss his new novel, Radio Free Vermont: A Fable of Resistance. Vermont has been an independent nation in the past, and some people would like to see it make its own way apart from the United States in the 21st Century. Bill McKibben is not one of those people calling for a real-life Vermont succession, but he stresses that in the face of the Trump provocations we must mount some sort of resistance.