According to the liberal Facebook zeitgeist, the only reason anyone could possibly have for wanting to curtail immigration to the united states is racism. Obviously, this view quashes a lot of inconvenient nuances. Kevin Lynn, founder of the Center for Progressive Urban Politics, wants to make room for nuance in thinking the effects of legal immigration and the policies that should flow from an understanding of those effects. Could anyone who wants to put limits on how many people the US lets in the front door really be considered a progressive? What does "progressive" even mean? KMO and Kevin Lynn address all of these topics in this episode of the C-Realm Vault Podcast.