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C-Realm Special – Episode 2013: The Overview Effect


Dr. Edgar Mitchell

In a special New Years Day episode, guest host Larry Lowe interviews Dr. Edgar Mitchell, the 6th man to walk on the moon during the Apollo program and founder of Quantrek a foundation dedicated to the development of Zero Point Energy.  Mitchell discusses the epiphany he had during the return flight and his work to include consciousness in the unified field theory. His model of cosmology builds on Dr. Walter Schempp's work defining the Quantum Hologram, which Mitchell realized defines consciousness.  Since the quantum hologram allows for sub-atomic quantum effects to appear at the macro level of everyday life, understanding it opens a door to the realization of how consciousness interacts with reality. In the second segment, Larry riffs with futurist and author Michael Lindemann on the implications of Mitchell's cosmology, including discussion of Ken Carey's new book 'The Third Millennium', which postulates that humanity is on the cusp of what he calls a quantum awakening. Evidence of this awakening is seen in a recent phenomenon of deep conceptual ideas arriving in the minds of a number of researchers in the field.

Music by Shadowed


Show notes:

The full account of Dr. Mitchell's work can be found in an article entitled "The Unexpected Benefit of Apollo 14", complete with links to deeper investigation of the ideas.


Recommended reading to follow up on the ideas presented by Michael Lindemann:

The Third Millennium: Living in the Posthistoric World Ken Carey

Ken Carey has transcribed a book from the celestial realm that contains pearls of wisdom that I found unparalleled in 30 years of metaphysical reading and searching. I am reading it for the third time; right around Christmas each year. As the New Millennium dawns, this wondrous message contained within becomes more clear and explicit as time unfolds... We are at a crossroads of mankind's future in the next 12 yrs. Our consciousness will spell the story of what happens to this earth and to all of us upon it.


The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment Eckhart Tolle


Eckhart Tolle's message isn't new. His book is meant to point us toward enlightenment, and thus his teachings aren't much different than that of Buddhism. But the way this book SPEAKS...


This may be the ONE book that you've been looking for... it's that good.

You can FEEL the essence of Tolle's message while you read. The book BREATHES with spiritual insight.


Breaking The Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One by Joe Dispenza


This new book is a real breakthrough in terms of practical application. Dr. Joe's genius is in many areas, but certainly he must now be seen as one of the world's top voices in how to apply the new science to your life. It is a delightful tour of what makes us work and more importantly, how you can make lasting change in your life. I have done several personal development workshops and many claim to bring about lasting change, but few really deliver on that promise. But this book and I am sure Dr. Joe's trainings bring this important work to the common individual and it is designed to facilitate change.

Mainstream science is being forced to catch up to the cutting edge scientists who have labored long and hard without the benefit of grant money because the subatomic world is affecting everything from computers to smart phones to warfare. I look forward to the day my college physics teacher has to recant due to the fact he once said to me after discussing the classic work, The Tao of Physics: An Exploration of the Parallels between Modern Physics and Eastern Mysticism that "You really don't think this affect us in our day to day lives do you?" That day, thanks to works like this one, is coming sooner than most people would think!

Science Set Free: 10 Paths to New Discovery  by Rupert Sheldrake


In Science Set Free, Dr. Rupert Sheldrake, one of the world's most innovative scientists, shows the ways in which science is being constricted by assumptions that have, over the years, hardened into dogmas. Such dogmas are not only limiting, but dangerous for the future of humanity.   According to these principles, all of reality is material or physical; the world is a machine, made up of inanimate matter; nature is purposeless; consciousness is nothing but the physical activity of the brain; free will is an illusion; God exists only as an idea in human minds, imprisoned within our skulls.   But should science be a belief-system, or a method of enquiry? Sheldrake shows that the materialist ideology is moribund; under its sway, increasingly expensive research is reaping diminishing returns while societies around the world are paying the price.   In the skeptical spirit of true science, Sheldrake turns the ten fundamental dogmas of materialism into exciting questions, and shows how all of them open up startling new possibilities for discovery.


Power Up Your Brain David Perlmutter & Alberto Villoldo Ph.D.


The quest for enlightenment has occupied mankind for millennia. And from the depictions we've seen-monks sitting on meditation cushions, nuns kneeling in prayer, shamans communing with the universe-it seems that this elusive state is reserved for a chosen few. But now, neuroscientist David Perlmutter and medical anthropologist and shaman Alberto Villoldo have come together to explore the commonalities between their specialties with the aim of making enlightenment possible for anyone.

Joining the long-separated worlds of science and spirit, Perlmutter explores the exciting phenomena of neurogenesis and mitochondrial health, while Villoldo brings his vast knowledge of shamanic and spiritual practices to the table. Together they draw from the most powerful tools in each discipline to create the Power Up Your Brain program, a ground-breaking, five-week plan that helps prime the brain for enlightenment. With nutritional advice, dietary supplements, physical exercise, shamanic practices, meditation, and visualizations, Perlmutter and Villoldo guide readers, step by step, through a program to help them clear their minds from previous trauma and open themselves up to experience the inner peace, vast insight, and extraordinary creativity that define the experience of enlightenment, paving the way to successfully face the challenges to come.


DMT: The Spirit Molecule Dr. Rick Strassman


Strassman’s research connects DMT with the pineal gland, considered by Hindus to be the site of the seventh chakra and by René Descartes to be the seat of the soul. DMT: The Spirit Molecule makes the bold case that DMT, naturally released by the pineal gland, facilitates the soul’s movement in and out of the body and is an integral part of the birth and death experiences, as well as the highest states of meditation and even sexual transcendence. Strassman also believes that alien abduction experiences are brought on by accidental releases of DMT. If used wisely, DMT could trigger a period of remarkable progress in the scientific exploration of the most mystical regions of the human mind and soul.


The Overview Effect: Space Exploration and Human Evolution by Frank White

Using interviews with and writings by 29 astronauts and cosmonauts, Frank White shows how experiences such as circling the Earth every 90 minutes and viewing it from the moon have profoundly affected our space travellers' perceptions of themselves, their world and the future. He shows how the rest of us, who have participated in these great adventures, have also been affected psychologically by them. He provides a rationale for space exploration and settlement, describing them as the inevitable next steps in the evolution of human society and human consciousness.


The Spirits, Shadows & Secrets International Symposium 26 Aug - 1 Sept, 2013

The Spirits, Shadows & Secrets International Symposium is in every sense of the word, a nexus of the most world-class subject matter experts ever assembled in a single location at any one time…let alone for an entire week. Our objective is to bring together a unified consciousness of minds, in every sense, whose sole purpose is to hold candid and honest discussions regarding important discoveries and research by this unique group of scientists, professors, authors, independent researchers, and contributors. Although main-stream sciences have refused to accept several of the subjects open for discussion, the discoveries these speakers have made in recent years have had an effect on academia in solving issues in ways science had never imagined.

21 comments to C-Realm Special – Episode 2013: The Overview Effect

  • One
    of the most important trails we need to blaze is the cross-referencing
    of experience across the multidimensional frameworks of the physical
    world, let alone the non-physical – which brings the idea of quantum
    entanglement into congruence with Samadhi, Satori, Enlightenment et al.
    Excellent work Larry!

    • Ray Baskerville

      Thanks for this very interesting edition Larry, very enjoyable and worthy of multiple listens. I would like to make a clarification in the difference between Satori, Samadhi and Enlightenment. Satori is a spontaneous and temporary opening to the ‘Absolute’ Samadhi is spontaneous or conscious immersion in the ‘Absolute’ and Enlightenment can be said to be the end of identification with the body-mind as self. Beyond these is Moksha, the final liberation from all earthly karma (or subconscious conditioning).

      That said, those who have attained awakening or Enlightenment speak of an ongoing deepening or stages thereof and to give further context to our limited perspective the great Indian sage Sri Aurobindo once said of enlightenment “it’s just the beginning”.

      Aurobindo, by the way wrote much about the evolution of human consciousness and the influence of cosmic forces to that end. His tomb in Pondicherry is the place with the most powerful ‘energy’ i have ever been.

      • Larry Lowe

        Thanks for the distinction, Ray. I think Edgar experienced Samadhi in those terms on the way from talking and reading his work. Although I don’t find much more than semantic distinction between Samadhi and Satori

        People I talk to continue to have ‘realizations’ arrive. I’m going to build on this episode in a few more specials that will develop a train of thought on consciousness and if all of this is so, how can we manage to shift the consciousness of our civilization before it is too late.

        In a passing note, Richared Dolan is reporting that Ingo Swann died today. He was a pioneer in remote viewing, which I tend to think of as perception through the Quantum Hologram.

    • Will

      After listening to Dr. Mitchell discuss quantum entanglement with regard to rat learning, I happened to read the section on biofeedback experiments in Powers of Mind (yeah, the 1975 one, it’s new to me) and was struck by the account of lab rats all over the world suddenly ceasing to learn (if that’s what happened.)

    • Larry Lowe

      Thanks, Zen.

      Paul Von Ward talks of a model that has three states, Consciousness, Energy and Matter. Interesting that there are three levels in his cosmology, very loosely analogous to Gas, Liquid and Solid forms of matter. Perhaps there is something to the Holy Trinity we’ve not realized beyond doctrine.

  • Larry Lowe

    Here is a gem from the vault of prior discussion — a trialog between Rupert Sheldrake, Terrence McKenna and Ralph Abraham. Bear in mind the trio was talking about external consciousness influencing our minds, evolution as a learning process, the singularity, the Cartesan Duality, logic as the basis of intelligence and the dream state as a viable alternate reality 15 years or so ago. The narrator belabors the obvious, but the discussion seems pretty fresh despite its age.

    McKenna has faith in AI, which seems to me to be a bit quaint at this point. I’ love to hear the debate between Terrence and Graham Hancock, which, sadly I don’t think ever happened.

    The notion that DNA is merely programming for biology leaves out the idea that somehow DNA serves as a receptor for quantum entangled information. Sheldrake points this out. Almost.

    Sheldrake seems the still most relevant. His latest book, Science Set Free, is on Michael Lindemann’s recommended reading list. (above)

  • Larry Lowe

    Here is a quick link to episode 330: Aliens, Ayahuasca, and Planetary Awakening.

  • just a quick FYI – this episode didn’t come through in my iTunes C-Realm feed. I know KMO mentioned in Episode 343 that Larry was disappointed with the lack of responses — this might have something to do with it if others had the same problem I did.

    Looking forward to giving this a listen!

    • Larry Lowe

      I wasn’t really disappointed. Was just reflecting on the same effect when you spend 6 months crafting up a web App and it is not number one on the App Store the next day. One can’t help but feel a bit let down, but the expectation is unrealistic, as KMO pointed out.

  • Larry Lowe

    The hidden energy structure of the cosmos compared to the neural structure of the brain.

  • coyoteyogi

    I just typed in a very lengthy comment and it seems to have disappeared. Bummer.

  • coyoteyogi

    Hello Larry,
    Thanks a bunch for this episode. As a seeker/mystic/explorer/student/meditator I find the subject fascinating. KMO has mentioned my current teacher a few times on the broadcast as the author of the pithy little book “Advanced Magic for Beginners”. He was also interviewed on the Buddhist Geeks podcast #125. What I enjoy about Alan is how he strips away the unnecessary cultural trappings and belief systems and speaks directly to the “problem” of consciousness, meditation and awakening.
    There is no way around it. Unless you are graced by a spontaneous experience ( and they do happen) one has to spend regular time in meditation to gain understanding, insight and direct experience of non-separateness. I jokingly refer to the 3 Amigos of contemplative practice: Silence, Stillness and Emptiness (or No-thingness) Each one contains and includes the other two. Most people have glimpses of an Amigo from time to time on their cushion. What is so tantalizing and so “frustrating” is that unbounded, unity consciousness is always, already present. This moment.

    • Larry Lowe

      Hello, Phil:

      Thanks for the listen and the kind words. Double thanks for reconstructing a lost piece of writing — I hate when that happens.

      Alan Chapman is a new name to me. Would love to hear the KMO interview. Let’s intend that and see what happens.

      Love the line about the Three Amigos. Silence and Stillness are self explanatory although difficult. The emptiness of self, (lost of ego?) the internal quiet of the drunk monkey of our minds is harder. Floyd Fools Crow, a revered Sioux medicine man, teaching in his book Wisdom and Power talks of ‘becoming a hollow bone’ to allow the great spirit to flow throw the medicine man and do the healing. The idea is that one must be open to allowing the great spirit energy to transit through the healer. Not like you bottle it up inside and it empowers you. You let it flow through and it does the healing. Or whatever. He also talks of journeying out to the center of the galaxy on a spiritual quest out of his body. Thus I think there is something about the concept of ‘letting the power flow through’ one that can enable dramatic results. Will spare you the long drawn out analogy to using the QH.

      Sometimes in deep conversation, I find certain thoughts flowing so fast that I don’t think I am having them — they just emerge in my stream of conversation as if interjected by a process different than the one I engage in to carry on a two way dialog. As if someone wanted the listener to hear what needed to be said and I just happened to have my mouth moving at the time.

      So perhaps the means to access power and wisdom is not to want to obtain it, but to allow it to flow through.

  • coyoteyogi

    When I first started working with Alan Chapman, I asked him how many of his students had “achieved” enlightenment. He said “Well, first of all, I do keep score. And so far there have been 6. ” That has since grown to 12, though not me.
    There is something to be said for meditating in the presence of realized meditators. There is a resonance effect and with intention a “transmission” effect as well. For myself, the experience of silent, empty stillness is so startling, so delightful and so fleeting that I continue to grasp for the experience. And it is that very act of grasping which causes it to recede out of my field of experience.
    At any rate I am grateful listener to your contributions to the c-realm. It was you who convinced me to explore the UFO issue with an open mind. And if we meet someday I’ll tell you about the alien mantis I met one evening. thank yo for your work. I especially enjoyed the two conversations you had with TSB.
    Phil in Maine
    I think I’m about your age. I’ll turn 60 in March.

    • KMO

      Hi Phil,

      I very much enjoyed reading Advanced Magick for Beginners. I’d love to record an interview with Alan. I’d appreciate an introduction if you’re in a position to make one, and I’d welcome any suggestions for interview questions or conversation starters.

      • coyoteyogi

        I would enjoy that. i’ll send him an email. Don’t know if you’ve explored any of his you tube videos. He did a series called “Ask Alan”. One of those videos is how magic and occultism are expressed in and through enlightenment. I would also say that Alan does as good a job as anyone on describing and defining just what enlightenment is and more importantly, is not.

    • Larry Lowe

      Wiley Yiogi:

      The resonance effect worked for me. When I bent my first spoon, it was in the presence of my mentor. Later I asked if some assistance had been forthcoming and the mentor admitted the first one was not completely on my own. However, once convinced I could do it, I repeated the act a couple of dozen times, usually sitting alone in a restaurant. At some levels it’s easier to bend a spoon with your mind than it is to calm the mind all the way down to absolute zero to meditate.

      Speaking of meditation, seems others agree with Edgar Mitchell about the value of teaching the next generations to meditate — and thereby train the mind to comprehend and influence the Quantum Hologram.

      This unusual defense strategy really works. It is advocated by the Global Union of Scientists for Peace (GUSP,, a coalition of Nobel laureates and leading scientists who see it as the best way to avert the growing threats of nuclear proliferation, terrorism, and weapons of mass destruction; to create national security in every country; and to establish lasting world peace.

      John Hagelin, Ph.D., a renowned Harvard-trained quantum physicist who heads this group, says, “In recent years, [this] powerful, innovative approach to peace has been extensively field-tested – in the Middle East and throughout the world. The consistent result has been dramatic reductions in terrorism, war, and social violence. These findings have been replicated, published in leading academic journals, and endorsed by hundreds of independent scientists and scholars. The efficacy of this approach is beyond question.”

      [An Op-Ed piece: “Reducing Tension in the Middle East” was recently published worldwide advocating this approach.]

      According to Luis Intof Alvarez, the organizer of the Monte Alban gathering, the advanced TM-Sidhi practice has been taught to 8,000 students in 54 schools in southern Mexico and Guatemala during just the past weeks. With over 250 Latin American schools now participating in this program, at least 20,000 students will be collectively practicing these peace-creating technologies by this time next year. Alvarez says that our world leaders now have a choice. Which direction do we want to take: continued violence or creating peace?

      The leader of the meditate for peace movement is John Haglelin, PhD, a quantum physicist, educator, public policy expert, and one of the world’s foremost proponents of peace. He is director of the Institute of Science, Technology, and Public Policy, and international director of the Global Union of Scientists for Peace.

      For more information, go to

      Research Links: and

      in this snippet, Haglein explains the ‘100 monkey effect’ of Sheldrake’s Morphegenic field.:

      There is a fundamental principle called constructive interference. It has to do with the coherent influence of multiple radiators, such as when more than one loudspeaker or radio antenna is playing the same music. The individual sound waves from each source combine to make a bigger wave; the power is proportional to the square of the height of that combined wave. Therefore, the radiated power when you move loudspeakers together grows in proportion to the square of the number of loudspeakers—in this case, you get the power of nine loudspeakers by moving three of them together. The same will be true with any group of coherent radiators, whether loudspeakers, antennas, or number of people meditating, which helps explain why only the square root of a certain percentage (1 percent) of a population is enough to have a repeatable and demonstrably measurable effect on, in the case of our meditation assemblies, rates of violence. In the United States, the square root of 1 percent of 300 million citizens is only 1,732 people.


  • Alec M

    I’m still collecting all the pieces of my mind that were blown after listening to this interview! Many thanks for posting.

  • Larry Lowe

    Here is the companion film to the C-Realm Episode. Edgar Mitchell and others discuss the spiritual connectivity that arises from seeing the planet as a single object. “We need to come up with a sustainable approach to earth, not a destructive approach’ — Dr. MItchell.

  • WandererAwakening

    new-q-ler ?!?

    it’s pronounced new-clee-ur


    otherwise, thanks for making this podcast available. Dr. Mitchell is great, and the interview with him was well done.

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