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389: Paying for Our Own Subjugation


C-Realm_389_coverKMO welcomes Ben McLeish of the Zeitgeist Movement back to the C-Realm to talk about technology, primitivism, science, and the quest for knowledge. KMO lays out the case for thinking that resource scarcity and the sort of creeping behavioral control that Theodore Kaczynski describes in his manifesto stand between us and a rosy high-tech future, and Ben, while acknowledging the challenges and pitfalls, explains how these limitations spring from profit-based incentives and how they will not pose so great a challenge once we outgrow our capitalist values.


Music by Lady Rizo.

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