CRV232KMO talks with podcasting peer from back in the day, Cody of Blacklight in the Attic, about the strategies he uses to counter online echo chambers that propagate crazy narratives like chemtrail and flat earth conspiracy mania. Cody is part of an on-line brigade of skeptics and debunkers who call themselves the Badgers, a secret society with multiple membership levels. At the end of the podcast, KMO shares some of his recent writings on the Deep State.