KMO welcomes Terry Tapp "back" to the C-Realm Podcast. Terry was a guest on C-Realm Radio a few weeks back, but that episode was lost and is not available in podcast form. Terry is a writer and artist based in NYC, but his roots are in Appalachia, as are KMO's. In this conversation, they talk about the struggles of working people, machine learning, and political dysfunction. You can hear an earlier conversation that Terry recorded with Doug Lain for the Zero Squared podcast.