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53: Important but Trivial


C-Realm_Podcast_53In this installment of the C-Realm Podcast, KMO welcomes Professor Albert Bartlett back to the program to do an advanced seminar on his basic lecture on population, energy and the exponential function. After that we hear from Mike Hagan, host of RadiOrbit.


Albert Bartlett is an emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Colorado at Boulder, USA. Professor Bartlett has lectured over 1,500 times on Arithmetic, Population, and Energy. Bartlett is a modern-day Malthusian.

Professor Bartlett often explains how sustainable growth is an oxymoron. His view is based on the fact that a modest percentage growth can equate to huge escalations over short periods of time. He has famously stated that "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function."

He regards overpopulation as The Greatest Challenge facing humanity, and promotes sustainable living. Bartlett opposes the cornucopian school of thought (as advocated by people such as Julian Lincoln Simon), and refers to it as The New Flat Earth Society.

Mike Hagan lives in the country side near Columbia, Missouri. If he has a text bio somewhere on the web, it's buried deep. If you find one, let me know. I'll put it here.

I'll get Mike Hagan back for a future show in which we'll discuss the possibilities for 12/21/2012, but for the time being, here's a link to Mike Hagan's All Things 2012 page.

In this episode, I mentioned books by Bill McKibben and Vincent Casspriano Jr.

Bill McKibben’s website:

Vincent Casspriano Jr.’s website:

Special thanks to Queerninja for creating the cover art for this week's episode.

5 comments to 53: Important but Trivial

  • Thanks for the small file-size!

    13.9MB is so much easier to download on dialup than 59MB.

    • KMO

      Re: Thanks for the small file-size!

      I think perhaps that podomatic reduced the file size, as I didn’t do anything differently in the creation of this episode. It’s not that I don’t want to provide files of a more easily downloadable size. I just don’t know how to do it.

      • Re: Thanks for the small file-size!

        Interesting… I just checked again, and found that the iTunes directory listing shows that episode as 55MB, but when I try to download from podomatic the filesize is 13.8MB. Maybe podomatic is clever enough to send more compressed files to folks on low bandwidth connections? Whereas iTunes is not? Shame, because I like the fact that iTunes puts podcasts in a podcast directory on my iPod.

        9 days til my broadband connection (unless it’s raining that day)…

        • KMO

          Re: Thanks for the small file-size!

          Got broadband? I was going to type. “Got BB?” But that could easily be misconstrued. :)

          Any progress on a tabla track I could use?

          Stay well.

          • Re: Thanks for the small file-size!

            Not yet, sorry. Monday afternoon is the current point at which we’re expecting a broadband connection. After which point I hope to be Skypeing both yourself and BB, and sending large MP3s and suchlike.

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